Law School Review: College of Legal Studies, University of Petroleum and Energy Studies (UPES), Dehradun

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Written by a UPES student anonymously

Every University/College comprises of a good part and a bad part. We have always been taught to own up the truth and it would have been great if the Universities/Colleges had followed the same by owning up the bad parts instead of only the good parts and thus striking a balance rather than getting into an act of ‘COVERING UP’.

It is not their fault either I guess taking into consideration the huge competition in the private law school admission sector (who would be the one to make the most in May to July?).

College of Legal Studies, University of Petroleum and Energy Studies, Dehradun, sadly is a victim of that race. It has and is losing its integrity in order to keep the profit margin intact.

Here is a highlight of the achievements of the College in the past few years:-

1. INFRASTRUCTURE

A. THE CAMPUS

The Law College campus or building rather had shifted from the Bidholi campus to the Kandoli campus (Bidholi campus is now only for the Btech. people) last year. The campus comprises of the Management branch too. So, that makes one building for law and one for management.

A casual stroll within the two buildings would clearly help you to garner the fact that the law building was made in a haste and does not stand anywhere close to the management building with regard to size of classrooms or facilities (no charging points for laptops in the law building classrooms. In Management, well….you will have one with every single seat).

I guess it is a very small issue but I think we have settling for smaller things for long now. ATLEAST THEY SHOULD GIVE DISCOUNTS IN THE TUITION FEES THEN. (the entire course fee ranges from around rupees 10 lakhs to 16 lakhs including hostel)

Besides this, you have a Food court (a decent one) with a single floor for students belonging to both management and the law school. So, if you are lucky enough, you would surely find a seat during the lunch hours.

The top two floors are reserved for the Boys hostel students and only one of them is functional during the lunch hours. No reason given for not using the top one. It is for show.

The basement comprises of the FACULTY LOUNGE. Quality of food is decent. They charge you with prices ranging from that of a dhaba to a five star hotel restaurant.

B. THE LIBRARY

The most precious asset for any law school would be its Library. For UPES, it is certainly not. The College library can be regarded as far from adequate to serve the needs of a law school student.

Though after subscribing to online databases like LexisNexis International, Heinonline, which both came in last year the situation has improved but still there are not enough books to suffice the preparation or research in a single subject for a student belonging from 1st to 5th year.

In order to procure books for any competition, a student needs to fill up a requisition form followed by an eternal wait for its implementation.

Sometimes, sorry, most of the times, you would have to wait till the next semester for them to arrive (So make sure you order your books for your national/international moots in the semester previous to which you plan to go).

The College Library is situated in the basement of the Law School building (told you, not a precious asset!) and therefore sometimes you might feel suffocated as there is no proper ventilation in place.

Technically, it is the parking area which they have converted into the library (a person who spends time in the library would have noticed for sure).

C. HOSTELS

The Campus comprises of three boys` hostels and one girls` hostel. Getting admission into the hostel is based upon merit (on paper) and if you do not have that, make sure you have good connections (preferably political).

Most of the seats are filled up through contacts and very less on merit, as a result, the ambience of the hostel might not be ideal for few students but then people do manage if you have good roommates and know the right people.

The facilities provided by the hostel are decent and would suffice your basic needs pretty well. The mess food though has degraded over the years as a consequence of the mass intake of students every year. The Hostel Mess Committee still puts in an effort to make the right menu but even they become helpless sometimes.

The Girls` Hostel has a different mess and a different Mess Committee. The infrastructure is better compared to that of the Boys` Hostels.

2. STUDENT INTAKE

A college is recognised through its students but UPES fails to understand this fact. They believe that more you promote the so-called infrastructure and courses they offer, the more the repute the college shall gain.

COLS, UPES has now turned into a profit making institution and therefore they do not really believe in small things like ‘numbers’ (except the money).

The college has managed to take in approximately 500 students (1st Year) for the batch of 2016-2021.

The number says it all. Most of the National Law Universities has an entire capacity of 500 students ranging from 1st to 5th year, but UPES, produces a whole NLU every year.  The consequence of such a huge intake is a fall in quality which seems to be very obvious for any rational human being.

3. COURSES OFFERED BY UPES

The number of student intake every year increases with the number of courses introduced every year.

For the upcoming batch, the college has introduced a new course called B.sc LL.B(Hons.) with specialization in IPR/Medical Law/Health Law/Food Law/Forensic Law. How many of them are recognised by the Bar Council of India (BCI) is a question that needs to be asked taking into consideration the issues which are already being faced by the students pursuing B.tech LL.B.

A complete list of courses offered by the college can be found here: http://www.upes.ac.in/college-of-lega-studies_(cols).

4. FACULTY AND ACADEMICS AT UPES LAW COURSE

UPES has the policy or marketing policy rather of defining the destiny of a student right from his/her inception into the law school.

I mean, till third year you are not sure whether you want to pursue civil or criminal law or any other form of law and even more than that, how would you know that you hold an interest in a particular subject/segment of law and would be able to excel in it unless and until you read, research and practice in that particular domain?

This process can only begin after inception into law school and not before that.

The courses as mentioned above has a preset pattern which a student needs to follow and therefore even if you want to pursue criminal law instead of corporate after your third year, sorry but you are not allowed to do that since you had already given that up that option when you chose your course sitting in the Delhi auditorium with your parents.

The majority of the faculty of the college are fresh LL.M graduates from different National law schools and most of them really do put in an effort to adjust themselves with the administration of the college and give their best shot.

At the same time there are other senior faculty members who do not really bother much and are satisfied enough to be able to complete the course.

The form of learning the college imparts does not help in growth of ideas as there is very little classroom discussions and more of trying to complete the designated syllabus method.

5. STUDENT ACTIVITIES AT COLS, UPES, DEHRADUN

A. MOOTING

Mooting is the most important co-curricular activity in every law school. For UPES, mooting begins and ends with its flagship event, Dr. Paras Diwan International Energy Law Moot Court Competition, which usually has a huge budget allocated to it as it helps the college to earn alot of publicity as International teams (Bangladesh and Nepal) turn up for the competition.

The most active committee of the College like any other law school is the Moot Court Association which organizes approximately around 8 (eight) events throughout the year including intra-college+ national/international.

The organising of events has always been great since students and faculties put all their labour into it. The obvious question therefore which arises in this case is how would I rate the performance of my own college in competitions held by other law schools?

I would answer it as, Average! The reason for the same is there is minimal amount of support from the faculties even for the big moots like ICC Trials, Philip. C. Jessup, Henry Dunant and we do not even receive invites for good moots like Herbert Smith or D.M Harish.

So, this shows that though we are good at organising, our performance has not been great so far. Reason? Lack of infrastructure in terms of books, no mentors except seniors (you need to consider the fact that they are also students who has other prior commitments too).

The Moot Court Association is happy to receive any trophy from any moot whatsoever without considering the tier or the level of competition of the moot. Therefore a team losing in Henry Dunant is treated at par with a team losing in any unrecognised moot.

B. LAW REVIEW

Besides mooting, another important activity of any law school which brings it prestige and recognition would be its Law Review/Journal. UPES had its law review in the year 2014-15 but after the faculty concerned for the same left the institution, the journal, inspite of two attempts, could not be revived till date.

C. DEBATING AND OTHER CLUBS/SOCIETIES

Besides the MCA, the DebSoc is also a very functional society or committee in the college but again lack of proper guidance and exposure has kept the level of performance low but still it has performed better compared to the other committees so far.

Since the academic year of 2016-17, new clubs like oratory club, music club etc were introduced which are occasionally active in nature.

D. COLLEGE FESTS

The college organises one cultural and one educational fest. The Cultural Fest by the name of Urjaa and the educational one- IGNITE.

Urjaa does not even come close to be regarded as a college fest with no great artists or performances, completely devoid of any feeling of a college fest in toto.

IGNITE is a decent educational fest with great prize money and therefore attracts alot of participation but mostly in-house.

E. THE COLLEGE RULES AND REGULATIONS

The college has strict dress code or uniform rather and you are supposed to comply with the same or you will be stopped at the college gate by the guards and sometimes even asked to move out the class if not properly dressed by the faculties.

Some people believe that maintaining such a dress code is important to maintain the sanctity of an education institute but the way a person is treated for not abiding by the same does not anyway help to the keep the sanctity intact.

P.S. The dress code includes your socks as well.

The perusal of the hostel rules would give you an instant case to file a writ in the Uttarakhand High Court but I guess students are stopped from doing the same since nobody would like to begin his/her career by filing a lawsuit against their own alma-mater.

One is not allowed to visit the mess wearing shorts or slippers (including crocs) during the college hours. The college hour starts from 8:00 am till 5:30 pm. So, make sure if you are planning to join the campus hostel, please get yourself an extra pair of shoes.

The curfew time for the girls hostel is 6:00 pm during winters and 8:00 pm during summers. People have not really complained much about this yet but a breach of the same would help you to attract a lot of free publicity followed by a penalty!

  • The UPES belief book mentions that it is amenable to RTI applications and have also designated a Public Information Officer and an Appellate Authority in compliance with the same but so far, the voice(s) and along with the application(s) have been suppressed.
  • The UPES Belief Book also lays down the roles and responsibilities of various authorities of the University. Amongst them the College Proctor has the authority to initiate and supervise if any alleged breach of Disciplinary Regulations and also to refer the case to a Disciplinary Committee in cases of serious breach. Thus, the role of the Proctor is pivotal in the entire process.
  • But the Belief book does not lay down what would constitute a major act of indiscipline, minor act of indiscipline, misconduct in classroom (as classified by the Belief Book itself). It therefore lies solely on the discretion of the Proctor or the college authority to decide whether it is a major or minor act and refer the matter to the Disciplinary Committee which is clearly arbitrary and irrational in nature. The student thereafter is given a right to be heard or make his/her case in an already lost battle.

This year there has also been an incident of Ragging in the campus, which was reported to the UGC (not by the College) but the College authorities have allowed the culprits to be back on campus after giving them a year back.

7. PLACEMENTS AT COLLEGE OF LEGAL STUDIES, UPES DEHRADUN

Now, this one is the big one!!

Students pay a fortune in this law school only to expect a good paying job at the end of 5 years but what they manage to get is only Rs 25,000 per month on an average in a metropolitan city.

Price-Waterhouse-Cooper (PwC) has been a constant recruiter since the past few years but even they do not recruit more than 5 to 6 people with a maximum salary of Rs 5 lakhs.

Other major recruiters would be Adani, again 2 to 3 people, salary 4 to 6 (Approx).

None of the top tier law firms turn up for the placements with an exception being Wadia Ghandy & Co. who recruits only a single student after a rigorous placement process of 5 months [pay package 6-7 lakhs (Approx)].

Students mostly get placed into consultancies (including LPOs) and only a few fortunate of them manage to land up PPOs.

The placement records are fake! (More details of the same available at: http://www.upes.ac.in/upes_llb/placements.php).

They take into consideration the ones who have opted for placements and little do the people know how students are demotivated before sitting for placements, so that a majority of them backs-out/opts out and consequently they would be left with only 40 percent of the batch to place which would in turn help them to claim a 90% placement statistic and display it on the hoardings all over Dehradun city.

8. PARTING WORDS

This College can give competition to any of the top 5 NLUs but only if its integrity is kept intact and the administration stops making it a profit making institution and concentrate more upon improving the quality of the students rather than quantity.

The students also at the same time needs to realise their responsibility towards the college and more than that towards their parents and themselves and it is only then can College of Legal Studies, UPES, Dehradun be able to resurrect itself again.

19 COMMENTS

  1. Dear Anonymous,

    I agree with the part of your comment that UPES has not been able to produce 100% quality students. Because you, my College mate and junior, not only failed to learn how to make logical and cohesive arguments in your stint of law school so far, but also lack common morality and courtesy which is expected out of any Gentleman, leave aside Advocates who are supposed to be the epitome of articulation with humility. No, just look at the comment made by Raghav and compare it with your comment. Any neutral person reading these comments can make out the difference in their level and of the mental calibre of the persons writing them. I think it explains why Raghav secured a placement in such a prestigious MNC while you on the other hand seem to be suffering from an inferiority complex after seeing no prospects of getting placed due to your personal incapacity. Did you get rejected by L&T?

    Still for the sake of prospective law students, I will clear a few things:

    1) You don’t get placed for the Degree you secure, but the person you become with that degree. You have to compliment your degree with additional courses, paper presentation etc. Almost all the top students do some additional courses, even better if it’s a course in some non-cliched field. Law+Management make an excellent combination.
    2) Paper presentations are over hyped in the sense that any one can do them. They just require little bit of hard work and research, not a very high IQ or legal acumen. In fact law firms and companies don’t value them that much in India unless it’s published in a foreign journal because here the level is not that high.
    3) UPES has so strict environment against ragging that many people thought it would be counter productive for the freshers as healthy ‘ragging’ breaks the ice and helps in making contacts with seniors. In my intro by seniors, I was given a disclaimer before that I am giving it on my own and I can leave anytime I feel uncomfortable.

    That being said, I don’t wish to claim that UPES is a top institution. Most of the things written in the article above are actually true.

    I just don’t want you to trust a random guy making anonymous comments due to some personal malice.

    You should read this wonderful book by Tanuj and then select a law school.

  2. DEAR MR Raghav Joshi,
    COLS Alumini,
    2015 Batch
    Ph: 7045002155 ,

    YOUR “I still managed a decent placement in one of the biggest Indian MNCs that through resources of COLS UPES.” SOUNDS SO FAKE -_- , YOU GOT THAT JOB AT L & T BECAUSE OF YOUR DEGREE IN MANAGEMENT FROM SYMBIOSIS , AND I KNOW YOU ARE NOT A PROUD UPESITE , THEY NEVER TAUGHT YOU ANYTHING , ACTUALLY YOU NEVER DID ANYTHING DURING YOUR LAW , AHA ! YOU DID WRITE A RESEARCH PAPER FOR RGNUL PATIALA , WROTE IT ? OPPS DID I SAY YOU WROTE IT , AHA NO YOU COPIED THAT DOWN FROM “International Journal of Scientific and Research Publications, Volume 3, Issue 2, February 2013” ISSUE , YOU THAT THAT IS WHAT UPES TAUGHT YOU DUDE , SO DONT YOU TRY TO FOOL AROUND THE PARENTS BY THROWING UP THAT COMMENT OKAY , EVERYONE KNOWS HOW BAD UPES IS ! AND AFTER SOME RECENT INCIDENTS OF RAGGING IN THE COLLEGE IN THE YEAR 2016-2017 , ITS EVEN WORSE , SO LET US NOT HIDE FACTS .

    • Bhai/Bhean ‘Anonymous’.. Hindi me baat kartey hai… phele to tum apna naam bataney ka kast karo.. aur dusri baat tumhari baato se lag rha hai ki Raghav Joshi ko uske sabse karibi dosto se bhi jada jantey ho.. tabhi itni gahri jaankari hai tumhe iske baarey me ya fir tum ek habitual linkedin stalker ho.. khair pehli baat UPESITES is synonymous of PROUD… lekin I guess tumhe ye nahi samjh me aayega kyuki u don’t deserve b an UPESITE.. chalo ab baat kartey hai academic ki to u must kbow that Raghav Joshi is one among the brightest student of 2010-15 batch and its not because of chance he got placement in That MNC which I believe u can only dream about.. and that symbiosis course is still not complete.. ab baat karet hai uss RESEARCH PAPER FOR RGNUL PATIALA ki, to mere dost (agar tumne paper padha ho to), it is a statistical/ emperical paper rather a total legal research paper..
      Ye to hui Raghav Joshi ki baat..
      Ab aatey hai UPES pe, to jaisa ki u r claiming ki waha kuch sikhaya nahi jata aur waha ke log sirf copy paste se hi graduation complete hai so kindly search the google about the first Indian boy who ot internship opportunity with The International Court of Justice, The Hague.
      Aur bhi kai examples hai which I strongly believe that will not help/motivate you in you entire life..
      P.S: A proud UPESITE (alumni), roommate of Raghav Joshi, and prepared a Research paper om the same confrence along with Raghav..

      Details: (kyuki hume ‘Anonymous’ khalna pasand nahi hai)
      Abhishek Shekhar Ojha
      UPES, BALLB 2010-15 batch
      Phone no. 9838787864

    • If that testimonial suffices you ,enough.
      May I now bring to your notice the acts of “COVERING UP” that you seem highly pitching!
      Don’t play the victim to circumstances you created.
      What made you choose COLS, UPES over several other law colleges, must be you running out of choices, eh?
      Considering that being done under provocative circumstances, what great you learnt about the work ethics a lawyer must abide to ? Presuming you’ve come here to become one. We grew up at UPES learning ‘solidarity’ and not digging each ones grave because we are crippled through. I believe you were too engrossed writing a review and advocating one! While the rest set priorities and soared such heights. You certainly devoured yourself stockpiling into every nook and cranny.
      Every wrecked house is built out of bogus bricks, the first place why it got wrecked.
      You shouldn’t be spoon fed (reference drawn from the first post) rather spine-fed!
      Blame doesn’t empower you, Kid.
      UPES will still be producing Super lawyers while you can lash out, guffawing over the sole nothingness you definitely have. Pulling a faux pas is one essential trait you have garnered, could be a highlight of your resume.
      Unlike you ambushing through anonymity, must be your alma mater to be blamed for.
      I choose to not deter my being.
      Arunima Shastri
      5th Year, COLS, UPES Dehradun.

    • The means by which you have come up in responding to my comment reminds me of the manner in which recruiters get hold of my LinkedIn profile and survey it. Since you have pin pointed out me in your post, I will not be modest here in responding to you. As you are so interested in gathering information about me, please correct my biography you are writing by noting the following:
      • I got placed in L&T Limited due to my excellent performance in the `open to all` qualifying exam conducted for my batch mates by the HR of the Company and subsequent interview by the General Counsel and Head Legal of the L&T Group of Companies. You say, I got the job due to my PG degree in management from Symbiosis! You cannot be more wrong! I applied for PG in Management after a whole year I joined L&T. My PG degree isn’t complete yet!
      My LinkedIn profile from which you probably stalked me and got details, mentions the date of my joining L&T and the year I enrolled for PG program. `Dude` are you blinded by your ailing ego? You can`t read facts?
      Also, do not you know that PG degree cannot be completed before your Graduate degree?
      • The journal you referred to herein, I am sure I have taken certain words, keywords, phrases, arrangement of assertions from it, but those have been restricted to the introductory part of the paper. I am sure that you have not read my paper fully. The paper is an empirical/statistical paper; I collected data, collated it, represented it in bar graph and charts, drew conclusions from it and gave my recommendations. FYI, the recommendations I recorded in it were sent by me to Hon`ble Justice JS Verma Committee in January of 2013, when the criminal law was being amended.
      The manner in which you have researched on me is abysmal, half hearted, a half baked approach. You have got the facts all wrong. If you do the same you will be a lousy lawyer, and prejudice your client`s case. You instead of taking control of your own life, are in a miserable fashion spreading rumors about me. Dude, I am a very small person. For you, your life and what you do with it should be your priority. Throughout my posts I have advised all readers to do the best in their life without having to relying on spoon feeding.
      I gather you are a UPES graduate, probably from COLS. Seeing the condition of research skills I agree that UPES must refine out the unworthy people, and restrict the admission to a few, worthy of the profession.
      Lastly, `Dude`, you must come up with your name, when defaming someone. You should know, that `if` you get a job, you will be required by procedures to file a Vakalatnama, in your name, before you start pleading or bleating your client`s case.
      You have my contact number, if you want information of `foolish/shady deeds` that I `REALLY` did, please call me, I will be happy to share with you.

    • This reply is from 2010-2015 batch and everyone who knows Raghav will agree. Raghav Joshi was the most hardworking student of the batch and the core knowledge he had about the field was commendable. Stop attacking some one of such a caliber on public portal who is also a alumni of the college. You seemed to be a better judge of a research paper then RGNUL PATIALA. You better get your facts right and stop this defamatory remarks.The selection process of L&T was a tough one and he along with two others from my batch cleared it which is totally well deserved . you are free to write your views against any institution. College of legal studies is doing well. The time we joined UPES it was in a nascent stage and the faculties were good. Every institution has its flaws and an institution is made by its students. If you have the potential to achieve great things you will be recognized.
      PS- Stop the nonsense personal remark on some one. This is totally defamatory and this is an open warning.
      From
      Sonam (Batch 2010-2015)

    • Dear Anonymous
      I agree with the part of your comment that UPES has not been able to produce 100% quality students. Because you, my College mate and junior, not only failed to learn how to make logical and cohesive arguments in your stint of law school so far, but also lack common morality and courtesy which is expected out of any Gentleman, leave aside Advocates who are supposed to be the epitome of articulation with humility. No, just look at the comment made by Raghav and compare it with your comment. Any neutral person reading these comments can make out the difference in their level and of the mental calibre of the persons writing them. I think it explains why Raghav secured a placement in such a prestigious MNC while you on the other hand seem to be suffering from an inferiority complex after seeing no prospects of getting placed due to your personal incapacity. Did you get rejected by L&T?

      Still for the sake of prospective law students, I will clear a few things:

      1) You don’t get placed for the Degree you secure, but the person you become with that degree. You have to compliment your degree with additional courses, paper presentation etc. Almost all the top students do some additional courses, even better if it’s a course in some non-cliched field. Law+Management make an excellent combination.
      2) Paper presentations are over hyped in the sense that any one can do them. They just require little bit of hard work and research, not a very high IQ or legal acumen. In fact law firms and companies don’t value them that much in India unless it’s published in a foreign journal because here the level is not that high.
      3) UPES has so strict environment against ragging that many people thought it would be counter productive for the freshers as healthy ‘ragging’ breaks the ice and helps in making contacts with seniors. In my intro by seniors, I was given a disclaimer before that I am giving it on my own and I can leave anytime I feel uncomfortable.

      That being said, I don’t wish to claim that UPES is a top institution. Most of the things written in the article above are actually true.

      I just don’t want you to trust a random guy making anonymous comments due to some personal malice.

      You should read this wonderful book by Tanuj and then select a law school.

  3. you have got real guts to let out the truth … keep it up 🙂
    you have emotional seniors though 😛
    but you know how we treat dissenting opinion these days …:D

    • Yes, seniors are emotional. Because they worked and proved themselves, proved the mettle of the college also. If students of your type are lucky, work for your their own good using the resources of their college to the best, and make something of their life, I am sure you all will have all the good reasons to be emotional about their college too. FYI, the seniors are placed all across the globe, with salary packages, you cannot even dream of. Use LinkedIn, find out the Aluminis of COLS UPES right from the first batch 2007-2012 and you will see.
      Otherwise, you all should know, LLB can be done through distance programs while sitting in your homes full of amenities. Be a better human, do not waste your parent`s hard earned money for your degree, by getting into a college without a clue about the resources at your disposal while just cribbing about some shortcoming. Better stay at home, where you will be spoon-fed everything and get your LLB degree through distance education program.
      And yes, I do agree UPES should cut down the admissions, take it down upto 100 per year. This will weed out the unworthy, who just get there by any means, and are so unaware to the doors of opportunities available to them.
      An advice to you all: Only when you have a dream, will you be able to find paths to achieve it, when you have paths, you will be aware about the resources available to you to proceed on that path, and the day will come when you will achieve your dream. You will have to wake up from your own mundane thought process and carve out a life for yourself, that you want after law college.

      Just wake up.

      • Thanks for free… career advice !! FYI I am doing very well in my career being from the same college and wasting my parents hard earned money but I also dont believe in utter rigidity about UPES. Plus I dont think any of us wants bad things for UPES. Including author, the attempt was just to shed some light on wrong things happening there.
        God !!! make way for some rational conversation… there is a fine line between criticism and defamation !!

  4. I am an alumini of UPES COLS. Despite all the bureaucracy of SRE, placement department, I still managed a decent placement in one of the biggest Indian MNCs that through resources of COLS UPES. It is easy to make a hue and cry when it seems to you that whole universe(ty) is conspiring against you. But first check your self my friend, are you sure you have given your best?

    Your seniors who ate the same food, who studied in Bidholi campus (when it was in dust of cement and sand being under constructiin), had a meagre library, few teachers, no formal moot/mun committiees, no food court even, are now Legal Consels in big companies like Shell, British Gas Group, Jacobs, Larsen and Toubro, Schlumberger, Mahindra and Mahindra, World Bank, are associates in big firms like CAM/SAM Amarchand Mangaldas, Luthra and Luthra, Khaitan, Hemant Sahai, are teaching in various prestigious colleges, many of them are judges in various lower courts, Judge Advocate Generals in Indian Armed Forced. They all rose up form the soil of COLS UPES, are studentsof same old teachers that you shamelessly crticized.
    They didnt even have a bit of what you have now!

    The difference is they made the best of what little they had, while you continue to crib. Noone will get you a spoon fed placement.

    This is a dinner for thought.

    Raghav Joshi,
    COLS Alumini,
    2015 Batch
    Ph: 7045002155

    • Before criticizing go and do a little bit of research. Go check how many law schools have a functional placement cell and what are their placement stats. Apart from the top 4 NLUs which law school is able to bag high packages.? Go see the market conditions.

      The system may have some flaws but that is there everywhere. We are doing far better than other law schools.

      Stop blaming the college for your own failures. We have so many moot and other wins. We have societies that train students for MUNs and debates. I am sure you are not aware of them.

      I am a UPES alumni and I got a campus placement in a big MNC. Not only a job college even got me campus internship. How many colleges that you know get summer internships for students?

      Many of my batch mates and seniors were able to bag good jobs and crack govt exams. They were trained in the same college. Infact, we had facilities much less than what is available now.

      And you are talking about mess and hotel facilities? I mean we have a beautiful infrastructure. What do you expect exactly Sir? Go to some other colleges and please get aware of the ground realities before writing all this.

      And bdw a college is made by its students and not by the its infrastructure or other facilities. And with students like you I agree UPES has some big issues to be solved.

  5. I believe this post comes on behalf of an aggrieved student who is unable to make the most of his life, unable to sort out his interests, and definitely, unwilling to work hard. Although the things said here might be somewhat true – I am not commenting on that. But the writer of this post is definitely one of those persons who just lingers around, waiting for a miracle to happen in his life, and simultaneously cursing everyone and everything. This person has not even taken responsibility of his life and situation. At his age, he is still blaming everyone for his situation. If he’d be such a scholar, then he would have cracked entrance of any other BETTER law college – But he could not (I don’t know him, so I am unaware of his situation – this is a general statement considering he was living a NORMAL life). What this person should do is rather than blaming the college and counting the ‘n’ number of fallacies that the college has – he must take RESPONSIBILITY of his life – and firstly, acknowledge the fact that “HE IS HIMSELF RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS PRESENT SITUATION – for whatever he has done in the past”. His present situation is the result of his own actions. Once he understands this, he will stop cribbing about the “bad things” that UPES unfortunately has to offer and will start WORKING ON HIMSELF.
    No law college is perfect and UPES is no exception. There are two types of colleges –
    First Type, a college which is difficult to get admitted to, but once you WORK HARD and get admitted – “your life is set” – it is immaterial whether you study in your college years or not – you will have an above average placement by the end of your college term. This is the college whose NAME TAG is enough.
    Second Type – This type of college is relatively easier to get into and is generally the second option of every student – even of that student who has not really worked hard all his school years and is useless as fuck but DREAMS that every good thing in life will come to himself automatically (he thinks this is his RIGHT – which he might also ask from “god” all the time – or may be from his father’s pocket – pun intended). In this second type of college, if you “ENJOY” your college years – you might be a “pauper” by the end of your college term and then you might consider pursuing higher studies from the first type of college. In this second type of college, if you wish to bag an above-average, or perhaps an A-grade placement, you would have to WORK YOUR ASS OFF – there is no other option than doing that.
    UPES is the second type of college. So, if you are the type

    (This is for the writer of the post) A college is as good as the students in it. So, if you consider that UPES is not WORTH it – maybe you should consider that you are not WORTH it TOO – and perhaps start grooming your skills. Getting admitted to this college was YOUR choice – probably this was what you were capable of. If this offends you GOOD – this is what is intended. Don’t let the your ERSTWHILE SELF run your PRESENT. Change it – work hard, study hard, network, intern, or otherwise akin to your cribbing about your college you’d be cribbing about your job and then cribbing about your life – because posting about UPES on this mega forum won’t change a thing – there will be even more intake of students in the subsequent years and you can’t change that – there will always be that type of student (the one I talked about – who choose the second type of college) – you can’t change that – the only thing you can change is YOU – so start working on yourself.

    TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR SITUATION, FOR IT IS THE ONLY MATERIAL THING THAT YOU CAN CHANGE – WORK HARD STUDY HARD NETWORK INTERN – have goals – set milestones – don’t wait for a miracle, and ENJOY LIFE AS IT COMES – college life is the best thing that happens to a “fortunate” human – make the most of it.

  6. As a UPES student, I can agree with most of these things because I have been in the college for past 2 years and I have faced many of the things enlisted here. Here are few of my thoughts (*I am a B.Tech LLB. student and I spend most of my time in Bidholi so maybe some of my points might be off but I think many legal students might agree to this):

    1. INFRASTRUCTURE

    A. THE CAMPUS: Now originally when I started, the campus was in Bidholi and even though it was there only for a short period of time, I think the Bidholi set-up was a decent one. Now we have Kandoli campus. The only thing good about the campus is that you have only one building so you don’t have to roam around much to find your classroom or to find someone in the building (Bidholi has 10 bloody buildings and counting. It is tiring to go from one building to another especially when your class is at the other end of the campus.). The bad thing about the campus is the location. The Kandoli location is fairly new and there are no shops or restaurants around the campus. In Bidholi when you are bored of the college food you can go out, walk a bit and eat something but there is nothing of such sort in Kandoli. You have to walk at least 1KM to find a restaurant with decent food. Even the coffee shop in the campus is at the other end of the campus. The food court has serious seating problems no matter which campus you are in but you will get used to it.

    B. THE LIBRARY: I am a guy who spends most of the time in the library and I have no problem with it. Now if we compare this library with Bidholi library, I’d say that Kandoli library is shit. I don’t have much problem with finding the books I need and I don’t find it suffocating (or maybe it’s just me). The only problem is that some of the time, the book that you need is non-issuable which makes you want to kick someone in the throat and bash their skull with the thickest book you can find. The internet is fast and works most of the time (sometimes the internet would act up like a bitch and won’t work but those are some rare days).

    C. HOSTELS: Don’t know shit about it because I never lived there but all I know is that people prefer to live in private hostels rather than campus hostels. The Kandoli hostel is way better than the Bidholi hostel and I have never heard anyone using any sources to get into campus hostel.

    2. STUDENT INTAKE

    Trust me when I say that this college is as full as a clown car. Every year this college starts up a bunch of new branches that no one has heard of and some of which are really stupid (OH THE IRONY!). They accept more students than the number of degrees they are allowed to give and suckers fall for it all the time. I have only 8 students in my class (there are like 40s of them in the other B.Tech LLB branch) so I don’t think we will have some degree problems here (crosses fingers)

    3. COURSES OFFERED BY UPES

    As I already said, a bunch of stupid branches every year (THE IRONY IS UNBEARABLE) and some of them gets shut down as they start and replaced with something else which may be equally stupid.

    4. FACULTY AND ACADEMICS AT UPES LAW COURSE

    Now I have only studied a few of law subjects in my 2 years in this college but every legal teacher I got was a good one (lucky me). I got the best legal history teacher which I believe that not even any NLU teacher can compare to. If you are doing a 5 year course here then don’t be surprised if the teachers you had in the first year of your course no longer teach in the college anymore. It is said that many teachers use this college as a stepping stone for a better job and even it may be true, there are some good teachers considering that they may be freshers.

    5. STUDENT ACTIVITIES AT COLS, UPES, DEHRADUN

    A. MOOTING: I never took part in any national moot (which is a regret) so I don’t know how good a national moot should be, but the moots we have are pretty great too. I did my share of volunteering in moot courts so I know how dedicated the faculties and the students are in organising the moot.

  7. Views perfectly describes the situation of law students at UPES (I am one of them)…. Can i please get to know the name of author/Writter of this post.
    Thank you!

  8. I’ll have to agree with the most part of it. Can’t talk about the facts which lay in close after we have graduated as pointed out and me just having cleared first year, but for most of the profile it does stand as a profit making institution rather than filing out as good education hub. But taking into fact that it still is do at the early stages of its establishment it has concreted a fair deal of its marquee in the competitive college arena and has done quite a bit as for progression in the same. Hostel still lacks, hopeful that it improves along with the educational facilities including the library (P.S. That’s regarding their future plans) and also hopeful that the student and teacher body interaction improves further. As for the competitive sector I still see real scope of improvement, considering that they take into account the flaws in the current management system which I see clearly lacking as for now. And yea no idea about the placements but for the Seniors I was acquainted with, they seemed to have done fairly well for themselves. ????

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